GUEST: Clausell Mathis of Tallahassee, Florida — a frequent caller on The Jesse Lee Peterson Show – — joins James to discuss black issues in America — specifically disagreements about Black Lives Matter, the black family, education, crime, “racism,” discrimination, and racial profiling. Clausell says he is getting his doctorate and making physics teaching culturally relevant.
Clausell says Jesse helped him realize he needed to stop blaming others for his problems, but take responsibility. He admires Jesse for his work at BOND, a 28-years-running nonprofit dedicated to “Rebuilding the family by rebuilding the man” – – But he takes issue with things Jesse says that he feels are outlandish, and he accuses Jesse, James and Joel of being into the “shock jock” thing, supposedly saying things that aren’t true just to get ratings, advertisements, and money — at one point he calls Jesse “just a shock jock.” James says obviously he must agree that Jesse is more than “just a shock jock” (if he even is one at all) since Jesse helped him get his life more on track. The reason whites and everyone who support Jesse support him is because he tells the truth that inspires them on a personal level — they see value for all people.
Some of the things Clausell disagrees with is statement that Trayvon Martin was a thug, that “racism” doesn’t exist and never has, that Black Lives Matter is worse than the KKK, and other things that are true.
James insisted that Trayvon was in fact a thug, evidenced in part to being caught with a “burglary tool” (screwdriver) and women’s jewelry in his backpack, having tagged graffiti on a school door, being suspended for fighting, photographing himself smoking marijuana, holding a gun, wearing a “grill” gold teeth and calling himself “No Limit Nigga” on social media. The Skittles and Arizona Watermelon Juice he bought were part of the ingredients to make “Lean” when mixed with Robitussin cough syrup. There had been break-ins and burglaries in the area, so George Zimmerman was right in watching Trayvon who allegedly was wandering around suspiciously in the neighborhood with his hoodie on. The eye-witness said he was grounding-and-pounding George, and George said that Trayvon said “You’re gonna die tonight,” and his girlfriend (to whom he called George a “creepy-ass cracka”) seemed to indicate he doubled back and she believed he threw the first punch. Contrary to the edited NBC recording of the police call, George actually said “Okay” when told he didn’t need to follow Trayvon, and so he said he returned to his truck. So when George was being attacked, he shot Trayvon in self-defense. But despite all these facts, Clausell insists Trayvon was not a “thug” since he wasn’t convicted of any crimes. James said that he should have been in jail, in which case he’d be alive today, but the school resource officer let him off due to phony liberal leniency.
A caller Patrick points out Clausell is dishonest and changing the definition of “thug” to being someone convicted of a crime. James points out many thugs get away with the crimes they commit — for example, Al Capone, who was nabbed on tax fraud or evasion.
Another caller KT said that blacks and whites both do wrong, but blacks blame it on “racism” and excuse it.
James also defended the right to discriminate — Clausell took issue with Jesse saying that people don’t want to hire blacks, and especially not people with “black-sounding” names, African-sounding names, etc., because it indicates the attitude with which their parents may have raised them. James said that black disproportionately cry “racism” on employers when fired — they often file EEOC Equal Employment Opportunity Commission complaints and lawsuits. Clausell said that most blacks are not criminals, thugs, etc., and that it seems like James and Jesse are saying this — but that’s not what James and Jesse actually say. However, most black people believe in “racism” and are into the black thing — that’s why 96% voted for Obama twice. Many also have a reputation of being lazy, but Clausell insists that most are hardworking and not lazy.
James points out that Clausell doesn’t come across as a serious person — he’s just in denial, and softens the hard truth, and accuses Jesse and James of “lying.”
Clausell starts accusing James and Jesse of calling Black Lives Matter “terrorists” but that’s not what James nor Jesse say — but he started referencing James’s Facebook and Twitter timelines as “examples of racism,” such as saying that slavery was not “racist,” and some petition James may have signed at some point (maybe to the White House?) to recognize Black Lives Matter as a terrorist organization. He also thinks the Ferguson Effect is ridiculous, even thought it’s true.